Measuring pigs tusks

Luke
Jun 24th, 10:05pm
Hey bill I caught a couple of good boars over the weekend and just wondering what the Douglas score for them would be? I tried it myself but not sure if I’ve measured correctly.

Length in mm
tusks tip to tip = 162mm
Length of shortest tusk = 82mm
Length of shortest grind = 70mm
Circumference of the base = 62mm

I added them all up which = 752mm then converted to eights of an inch which came back as 29 5/8

Is that correct?

Hi Luke
Nice jaw, it measured 21 4/8
A couple of points you could change, when measuring add each measurement up as you go. Converted, tip to tip 6 2/8 length 3 1/8
grind 2 5/8
Base 2 3/8
Now don’t add-double the tip to tip as that is only one measurement.
This is the new Zealand deer stalkers measuring system, the Douglas score is only two measurements.
Happy hunting Bill Westwood

Paolo out for a hunt

Paolo is an Italian who lives and works in Taiwan. He follows all of my articles on my web site so he knows a lot more about me than I know about him. This was to be his third trip over to get out for a hunt with me and as an added advantage for Paolo I was going to put my young pup Snow onto the training pigs for the first time. Paolo has a thing for cameras as he has so many that he could use a different one each day of the week.

Lightning ready to bail the pigs while wearing two go pro cameras

Lightning ready to bail the pigs while wearing two go pro cameras

One thing that we did do was put a harness on Lightning with a go pro camera on his back and another one under his chest. The one under his chest did not come out as well as the footage from the one on his back.

Lightning bailing Mr Pig while wearing two go pro cameras

Lightning bailing Mr Pig while wearing two go pro cameras

Fog and Lightning bailing our first young boar

Fog and Lightning bailing our first young boar

For our first hunt Fog and Lightning bailed a 66 pound boar which Paolo got to shot and he carried it all the way out on his own. On our second hunt we spotted a white boar trying to sneak out over the top of the hill. Fog and Lightning followed him for a long way as we got to watch this boar run up and down the gullies opposite us with a good head start on the dogs. By the time the dogs finally caught up with this boar he had run over four KM and was two KM away from us. It took us a wee while to catch up to the action and this boar knew his stuff.

Fog and Lightning bailing the 100 pound boar

Fog and Lightning bailing the 100 pound boar

He knew that he could not out run the dogs but he also knew that we were the real danger. As we came over a rise we could see the boar out in the open tussock with the two dogs bailing, he was looking back at the place where we were about to come into view of him.

As soon as we walked out too where this boar could see us he moved around into the next face. Paolo at this stage was feeling the effects of a big hike to get to here. I could tell that this boar was going to keep on walking on the dogs so the first chance I got I shot him. I carried him 500 meters back to a track that I could get the bike to then I left Paolo with the boar and started on my 8 KM journey over the large range back to the bike. By the time I made it back to the bike I thought that I was going to be very saw the next day as I had pushed my body pretty hard.

Hamish Wells with Indy 27th June 2015

Hamish has been up a couple of times before so knows what to expect when he arrives. We gave Indy a good run through the main block with Lightning and my young pup Snow. As time went on we could see Indy’s confidence growing as she wanted to stay on Boris longer.

Hamish having a last ride on my old four wheeler

Hamish having a last ride on my old four wheeler

After training we took the two four wheelers out for a ride through the forestry with Fog, Thunder and Indy. At one point Fog was out at 380 meters and he was stationary for quite some time but we could not hear any barking which I think could have been a small pig that he would not bark at. After a while Indy went up to where Fog had been and gave a couple of barks then returned to us. I have watched Fog a number of times now just look at smaller pigs and not go and bark at them. I would like to think that this comes back to his training as he does not touch my smaller pigs at home. It was good to give the old four wheeler a last run with a good bugger before my son Sloan takes it. A memory that I will remember for a long time.
Something that I do not normally do is let somebody else use any of my pig dogs. Over the years there have only been two people that I have ever trusted taking my dogs out without me and that is Keith Garaway and my son Bryce, so it has been a big decision for me and something that I had been thinking about for a while was to let Hamish take my younger dog Thunder home with him for the next three months to help him to get Indy onto more pigs. I would like to think that this will be a win win situation for both Hamish and Thunder. Thunder has always acted young and seen himself as the pup, but recently since getting Snow Thunder has had to grow up but he still has the problem with Fog out finding him all of the time so he needs to learn to get out there and do some of the work for himself. Hamish has promised to keep me updated on how Thunder is going. The only two conditions that I gave Hamish was to get him out hunting regularly and always have a tracking collar on him when hunting.

Update on Snow 28th June

Snow at the house with our pet cat Charlie

Snow at the house with our pet cat Charlie

Snow is growing up so fast at present in both his body and mind. I am seeing some very impressive results coming from him already. He is about 21 weeks old now and from 18 weeks on I have noticed a huge desire to want to learn things. He had gone from a puppy playing with other dogs to a dog that wants to stop any other dog from walking anywhere, he knows not to bite any other dog but he can be such a persistent little bugger that he stops dogs. This in itself could have an adverse reaction causing my other dogs not to want to hunt, so I can see that in the next couple of weeks I will have to stop Snow from bailing the other dogs. This is not hard to do as I like to have good control over all of my dogs. The reason that I am not correcting Snow’s behaviour know is because it is the exact behaviour that I want to see him possess, all I need to do in the meantime is change Snow’s concentration over from the dogs to the pigs. This is not taking very long at all. Yesterday I had Snow in the main block with Lightning a training dog Indy and her owner Hamish Wells and the three dogs where on my grey boar Boris for a good half hour. Snow was quite happy getting into Boris’s face and he was loving every minute of it.
Because of Snow’s willingness to want to learn it is so easy to spend time with him so that he gets a chance to read my body language and understand some of the words that I say. This is the biggest stage of change that all animal owners need to understand, if your dog is not doing what you want it to then you have not known the things that you needed to know about helping that pup to understand things. People don’t know what they don’t know. Here to me is one of the simplest mistakes that I see a lot of people making with their dog. That is telling a dog to do something a lot of the time and expecting the dog to do that command and not giving the dog time to think. We also see this same mistake made with parenting when a parent tells their child to do something a few times when they would have heard them the first time. I have been allowing Snow to come though the fence to spend time with me around the house. He knows that none of the other dogs come through the fence unless asked to. When I feed the pigs I like to have Snow with me as I believe that it helps him to understand how another animal acts and reacts under normal daily life. Most dogs and hunters only get to see pigs under a stressful time. While I feed the pigs I also talk to them and give them a rub on the back, this way they too are calm and relaxed. If I can give off calm energy then everything else stay’s calm. At this point in time Snow is not too sure if he should bark at the pigs on his own or if he is only allowed to when the other dogs are with him. I am just waiting to see when he makes his decision to bark and at which pig. This I think will happen in the next few days. When I have finished feeding the pigs I walk back up to the house and if I am going to go inside I turn to Snow and say (down the back Snow). I do not keep repeating this command unless he either has not heard me or has been standing looking at me for the past two minutes then I would repeat the command in a serious tone. Today I walked up to the house and said in a nice tone of voice (good boy Snow, down the back) and had great pleasure to watch him happily walk around to the gate and get straight under) as he stood up on the other side I just reinforced the praise by saying good boy Snow in a nice calm happy voice. I know that he will stay down the back with the other dogs until I go back outside again.

Starting Snow on the pigs

Snow's first bail with his father Fog, bailing Mr Pig

Snow’s first bail with his father Fog, bailing Mr Pig

When Snow was about eighteen weeks old I noticed how he was starting to bail the other dogs and I could see that he was just about ready to start bailing the training boars. Up until this point I only had him in with the pigs at feeding time so he had not yet barked at them. I also noticed that about this time Snow was becoming a wee bit reluctant when coming into the pig block which was saying to me that he was starting to see them differently.

Snow and Fog bailing Digger

Snow and Fog bailing Digger

I had Paolo coming over from Taiwan to go out for a pig hunt with me, this was to be Paolo’s third trip over to see me so I thought that I would keep Snow off the pigs until he arrived in a couple of days’ time. Paolo has been following all of my articles on my web site so I knew that he would like to see Snow getting his first run on the boars. Snow did not disappoint as he followed his father Fog and bailed real well for a first time. After fifteen minutes I could see that Snow was starting to get bored so I called him out. With all of the training with a young dog it does not pay to do too much at one time.

It has been interesting watching Snow go back into the pig block without any of the other dogs as he is walking around watching the pigs and learning from them. What I want to see from Snow in the future is a dog that can happily stand close to a pig and not want to attack it but listen to my commands. Where I see a lot of young dogs getting bad training is the first time that they get to see a pig it is screaming with dogs attacking it. This will give a dog a whole different perspective of what to do on a pig compared to a dog that is standing back barking at a pig and putting no pressure on the animal.

New four wheeler

The old and the new

The old and the new

I have finally got around to updating my old motor bike. The old Honda 400 automatic bike has done me well over the years never letting me down once, it always started and went well but I felt that it was starting to get worn out. The old bike was four years old when I brought it and I have had it for eight years so I was due for an up date.  The new bike is a 2011 Honda 500 that even has power steering. My first ride on the new bike was to the top of the hill in the snow and it went well.

The new bike on top of the hill in the snow

The new bike on top of the hill in the snow

I was quick to notice the difference with having to change gears again as the old bike was so much smother to ride with not having to change gears. The new bike had new tyres on it which did make a difference getting through the snow. I already have a dog box made up for the new bike so I will get onto fixing this on. I am also going to have to get another carry rack made up for the front of the new bike as I have become used to carrying so many things on the front of the old bike.